If you don't do what I say, I will kill you....
At least that is the message for those working to keep Turkey from lapsing into a turgid backwater Islamic theocracy.
From AP: "A gunman opened fire in Turkey's highest administrative court Wednesday, wounding five judges in an attack he called retaliation for a recent decision against a teacher who wore an Islamic-style head scarf, officials said. At least one of the judges was in critical condition, they said.
The attacker, who was detained and being interrogated by anti-terrorism police, chanted "Allahu akbar!" or "God is Great," as he fired, private NTV television reported, citing witnesses."
Yup, God is Great and He wants me to kill you because you do not agree with the diktat from my particular interpretation of Islam. And these are Muslims killing Muslims. What do you suppose the response would be towards a Jew or Christian? In practice, not much different: you die.
The point is, negotiations with these folks is similar to talking to a rock, and about as effective. Ahmadinejad? A crazy rock trying to get a nuke.
And for the EU with Turkey knocking on its door requesting admission (and hence free movement of its citizens through the area), this poses an even more difficult question: do we let Turkey in at all? To me the answer is simple: not in a zillion years or the demise of radical Islam, which ever comes sooner. Picture the scene in a Paris court room where Ahmad has just slaughtered his daughter in an "honor killing" because that is what his Imam told him must happen. How would that play out? Of course, the defendant would want to be tried under Islamic law as being the only law that is applicable to the situation, and some crazy leftists would support that choice on a fundamental civil rights basis. The creation of a bifurcated system, then any Muslim/non-Muslim case gets shunted to that system to ensure the rights of minorities.... Eventually the tyranny of the minority and wholesale defeat to the radical lunatics. Think that I am taking this too far? Think again and see what is happening in the Netherlands.
Anyway, it really resembles the power of the Mafia in Sicily -- terror rules, until extraordinary steps are taken to see that order is restored.
From AP: "A gunman opened fire in Turkey's highest administrative court Wednesday, wounding five judges in an attack he called retaliation for a recent decision against a teacher who wore an Islamic-style head scarf, officials said. At least one of the judges was in critical condition, they said.
The attacker, who was detained and being interrogated by anti-terrorism police, chanted "Allahu akbar!" or "God is Great," as he fired, private NTV television reported, citing witnesses."
Yup, God is Great and He wants me to kill you because you do not agree with the diktat from my particular interpretation of Islam. And these are Muslims killing Muslims. What do you suppose the response would be towards a Jew or Christian? In practice, not much different: you die.
The point is, negotiations with these folks is similar to talking to a rock, and about as effective. Ahmadinejad? A crazy rock trying to get a nuke.
And for the EU with Turkey knocking on its door requesting admission (and hence free movement of its citizens through the area), this poses an even more difficult question: do we let Turkey in at all? To me the answer is simple: not in a zillion years or the demise of radical Islam, which ever comes sooner. Picture the scene in a Paris court room where Ahmad has just slaughtered his daughter in an "honor killing" because that is what his Imam told him must happen. How would that play out? Of course, the defendant would want to be tried under Islamic law as being the only law that is applicable to the situation, and some crazy leftists would support that choice on a fundamental civil rights basis. The creation of a bifurcated system, then any Muslim/non-Muslim case gets shunted to that system to ensure the rights of minorities.... Eventually the tyranny of the minority and wholesale defeat to the radical lunatics. Think that I am taking this too far? Think again and see what is happening in the Netherlands.
Anyway, it really resembles the power of the Mafia in Sicily -- terror rules, until extraordinary steps are taken to see that order is restored.
posted by Zaphod at Wednesday, May 17, 2006
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